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  • logiclife
    05-29 12:36 PM
    I tend to disagrees with your comments, firstly please dont call this a stupid event, as a lot of young students strive to win this competition. In order to lead you have to follow, I have come across some smart ass Indians who love to talk and give directions, but they miss whole chunk of substance in their directions. (I don't mean to target you or disrespect any one else up here).

    Your commments on parents motivating their childeren to strive for success in their lives, their is nothing wrong in that, would you rather have them go smoke dope and jerk around to waste their time? I am indian and proud to be, , above all proud that my parents pushed me to excel and do better with the opportunities granted to me.

    However it is some desi companies who brought in the trend of lying and faking to get thie ways. But believe me , they dont get much further in their lives. I am glad strict restrictions are imposed on these companies, and the type of consultants they bring on board.

    Is it fair that the person doing Masters from this country be put in the same boat as a fresh of boat from India?


    Good Luck!

    The famous quote is: You can only fool me once!

    First of all, you dont have a binary choice in the matter such as either you learn 50,000 words and their spellings or go smoke dope. There is a middle ground here.

    Secondly, why do I see in company after company, especially in the knowledge industry that a straight A student, like your Kavya here, working for a manager who had been a B- student who in turn works for an executive who was a C- student ?

    Get educated ... that's fine. But dont get over-educated such that you are a cripple who cannot think outside the box. Too much education, too many straight As, too many spellings will make you incapable of thinking outside the box, taking risks. Anyways, that's my belief and my opinion and everyone is free to raise their kids in whatever way they deem fit. I for one, would never ask my 2 children to participate in any spelling bee contest.

    As far as your desi company thoughts go, it has nothing to do with spelling bee topic. However, let me tell you this. By being holier than thou and telling other people "I got a degree from here and you dumb asses have never been to an American college, so get lost you idiot, this job here is mine..." does not help anyone. Also, no desi companies put a gun to the head of anyone - Indian educated or US educated - to work for them. And let me remind you, there is AN ENTIRE GENERATION of US educated US masters degree holders who had no job after graduating and have been to a desi company to get trained on the real-world software applications. I am sure you know some people yourself, just as I know some people in that situation. If the US masters degree made them super-duper smart, then they would not be knocking doors of desi companies for education after graduating.

    I am no fan of desi companies, everyone here knows that. But don't preach a holier than thou sermon to everyone who doesn't have a US degree. Because your US degree isn't worth a bucket of warm spit when it comes to getting a job.





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  • PrinceVA
    04-19 03:26 PM
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  • Hassan11
    07-20 02:45 PM
    The short answer is most republicans voted yes for the senator Cornyn's bill to recapture the unused employment -based visas from previous years and almost all Democrats voted No (except Murray democrat from Washington voted yes for the bill. I guess Microsoft does have influencial power on the senator from Washington state)

    see the info here about bill: http://www.immigration-law.com/Canada.html

    Yesterday, Senator Cornyn introduced on the Senate floor Amendment 2339 to H.R. 2669, FY 2008 Budget, proposing the following temporaary relieffor the employment-based immigrants. Sadly, the bill was rejected by 55 Nays, 40 Yeas, and one No Vote. Do your want to know who voted against this bill? Click here.
    SEC. __. EMPLOYMENT-BASED VISAS.

    (a) Recapture of Unused Employment-Based Immigrant Visas.--Section 106(d) of the American Competitiveness in the Twenty-first Century Act of 2000 (Public Law 106-313; 8 U.S.C. 1153 note) is amended--

    (1) in paragraph (1)--


    (A) by inserting ``1994, 1996, 1997, 1998,'' after ``available in fiscal year'';
    (B) by striking ``or 2004'' and inserting ``2004, or 2006''; and
    (C) by striking ``be available'' and all that follows and inserting the following: ``be available only to--

    ``(A) employment-based immigrants under paragraphs (1), (2), and (3) of section 203(b) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1153(b));
    ``(B) the family members accompanying or following to join such employment-based immigrants under section 203(d) of such Act; and
    ``(C) those immigrant workers who had petitions approved based on Schedule A, Group I under section 656.5 of title 20, Code of Federal Regulations, as promulgated by the Secretary of Labor.''; and

    (2) in paragraph (2)--

    (A) in subparagraph (A), by striking ``1999 through 2004'' and inserting ``1994, 1996 through 1998, 2001 through 2004, and 2006''; and
    (B) in subparagraph (B), by amending clause (ii) to read as follows:

    ``(ii) DISTRIBUTION OF VISAS.--The total number of visas made available under paragraph (1) from unused visas from fiscal years 1994, 1996 through 1998, 2001 through 2004, and 2006 shall be distributed as follows:
    ``(I) The total number of visas made available for immigrant workers who had petitions approved based on Schedule A, Group I under section 656.5 of title 20, Code of Federal Regulations, as promulgated by the Secretary of Labor shall be 61,000.
    ``(II) The visas remaining from the total made available under subclause (I) shall be allocated equally among employment-based immigrants with approved petitions under paragraph (1), (2), or (3) of section 203(b) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (and their family members accompanying or following to join).''.

    (b) H-1B Visa Availability.--Section 214(g)(1)(A) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1184(g)(1)(A)) is amended--

    (1) in clause (vi), by striking ``and'' at the end;
    (2) by redesignating clause (vii) as clause (ix); and
    (3) by inserting after clause (vi) the following:

    ``(vii) 65,000 in each of fiscal years 2004 through 2007
    ``(viii) 115,000 in fiscal year 2008; and''.

    This reporter asks the readers to join him to extend our "THANK YOU" to the Senator Cornyn for continuously supporting the American businesses, foreign brains, and employment-based immigration. This reporter also urges the readers to send a thank-you email for his support.
    We are proud of the Senators from Minnesota, Norm Coleman (R) and Amy Klochubar, by setting aside the partisan politics and casting bi-parisan support for this bill. THANK YOU, and THANK!!

    here is the list of the senators of their votes:

    U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 110th Congress - 1st Session

    as compiled through Senate LIS by the Senate Bill Clerk under the direction of the Secretary of the Senate


    Vote Summary

    Question: On the Motion (Motion to Waive Cornyn Amdt No. 2339 )
    Vote Number: 266 Vote Date: July 19, 2007, 11:00 PM
    Required For Majority: 3/5 Vote Result: Motion Rejected
    Amendment Number: S.Amdt. 2339 to S.Amdt. 2327 to H.R. 2669 (College Cost Reduction Act of 2007 )
    Statement of Purpose: To provide interim relief for shortages in employment-based visas for aliens with extraordinary ability and advanced degrees and for nurses.
    Vote Counts: YEAs 55
    NAYs 40
    Not Voting 5
    Vote Summary By Senator Name By Vote Position By Home State


    Alphabetical by Senator Name Akaka (D-HI), Nay
    Alexander (R-TN), Yea
    Allard (R-CO), Yea
    Barrasso (R-WY), Yea
    Baucus (D-MT), Yea
    Bayh (D-IN), Yea
    Bennett (R-UT), Yea
    Biden (D-DE), Nay
    Bingaman (D-NM), Nay
    Bond (R-MO), Yea
    Boxer (D-CA), Nay
    Brown (D-OH), Nay
    Brownback (R-KS), Not Voting
    Bunning (R-KY), Yea
    Burr (R-NC), Yea
    Byrd (D-WV), Not Voting
    Cantwell (D-WA), Yea
    Cardin (D-MD), Nay
    Carper (D-DE), Nay
    Casey (D-PA), Nay
    Chambliss (R-GA), Yea
    Clinton (D-NY), Nay
    Coburn (R-OK), Yea
    Cochran (R-MS), Yea
    Coleman (R-MN), Yea
    Collins (R-ME), Yea
    Conrad (D-ND), Nay
    Corker (R-TN), Yea
    Cornyn (R-TX), Yea
    Craig (R-ID), Yea
    Crapo (R-ID), Yea
    DeMint (R-SC), Yea
    Dodd (D-CT), Nay
    Dole (R-NC), Yea
    Domenici (R-NM), Yea
    Dorgan (D-ND), Nay
    Durbin (D-IL), Nay
    Ensign (R-NV), Yea
    Enzi (R-WY), Yea
    Feingold (D-WI), Nay
    Feinstein (D-CA), Nay
    Graham (R-SC), Yea
    Grassley (R-IA), Yea
    Gregg (R-NH), Yea
    Hagel (R-NE), Yea
    Harkin (D-IA), Nay
    Hatch (R-UT), Yea
    Hutchison (R-TX), Yea
    Inhofe (R-OK), Yea
    Inouye (D-HI), Nay
    Isakson (R-GA), Yea
    Johnson (D-SD), Not Voting
    Kennedy (D-MA), Nay
    Kerry (D-MA), Nay
    Klobuchar (D-MN), Yea
    Kohl (D-WI), Nay
    Kyl (R-AZ), Yea
    Landrieu (D-LA), Yea
    Lautenberg (D-NJ), Nay
    Leahy (D-VT), Nay
    Levin (D-MI), Nay
    Lieberman (ID-CT), Yea
    Lincoln (D-AR), Nay
    Lott (R-MS), Not Voting
    Lugar (R-IN), Yea
    Martinez (R-FL), Yea
    McCain (R-AZ), Yea
    McCaskill (D-MO), Nay
    McConnell (R-KY), Yea
    Menendez (D-NJ), Nay
    Mikulski (D-MD), Nay
    Murkowski (R-AK), Yea
    Murray (D-WA), Yea
    Nelson (D-FL), Nay
    Nelson (D-NE), Yea
    Obama (D-IL), Not Voting
    Pryor (D-AR), Nay
    Reed (D-RI), Nay
    Reid (D-NV), Nay
    Roberts (R-KS), Yea
    Rockefeller (D-WV), Nay
    Salazar (D-CO), Nay
    Sanders (I-VT), Nay
    Schumer (D-NY), Yea
    Sessions (R-AL), Nay
    Shelby (R-AL), Yea
    Smith (R-OR), Yea
    Snowe (R-ME), Yea
    Specter (R-PA), Yea
    Stabenow (D-MI), Nay
    Stevens (R-AK), Yea
    Sununu (R-NH), Yea
    Tester (D-MT), Nay
    Thune (R-SD), Yea
    Vitter (R-LA), Yea
    Voinovich (R-OH), Nay
    Warner (R-VA), Yea
    Webb (D-VA), Nay
    Whitehouse (D-RI), Nay
    Wyden (D-OR), Yea

    Vote Summary By Senator Name By Vote Position By Home State





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  • makemygc
    07-06 11:54 AM
    The people who became "Current" with FIRST July Visa Bulletin
    That's the entire world. You must be kidding.



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  • rpeter
    10-05 02:08 PM
    I just sent an email to WSJ telling them to correct their misrepresentation.





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  • svgupta
    05-22 03:31 PM
    Please help us as I might be away for few hours .

    We need cotribution by everyone

    Thanks
    sure thing!

    however, is it possible to have a couple of more important/relevant threads always on the top (maybe top 3-5 slots reserved), so that these important threads (like LIVE updates, Media drive, Contribution to IV) don't get lost (more often in some trivia being discussed).

    also, as new members are logging to this group, they should be gently reminded that free lunch often upsets the stomach, so even a small/any contribution would help them feel better ;)



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  • dixie
    05-13 10:27 PM
    Reading the article I see that Neelima is, in fact, a US citizen of indian origin; not even an H1-B or GC. So lesson for us - getting a GC may be a convenience for us, but we are naive to think our troubles will end with it.Red neckers of the likes of Loo and his cronies arent suddenly going to accept us as one of them - rather, this is a life long struggle of the kind the african americans had to go through for centuries (and to some extent are still going through). Only wish ABCDs like Ron Hira realize that as well.

    Yes you are right. We need patience till you get your GC...I know its hard but there is no other way but swallow that pride. Its very hard to do that..speaking of which this anti-indian guy who sits next to me at work was making life horrible for few weeks. Things are sorted out now... I have a great Manager.
    I really feel sorry for Neelima's family... wish I could have helped them.





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  • rb_248
    02-07 09:42 AM
    Does your job requires you to have a Master's degree (or B.S. with some experience)? If it does not.....then you dont qualify for EB2. There is more to it. This is just a simple illustration. Even if you are a PhD if you take a job that requires only B.S. then you only qualify for EB3. This is my understanding.



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  • siravi
    10-12 04:53 PM
    Are we meeting today?

    are you joining us?!





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  • logiclife
    02-01 02:27 PM
    If I use my AP , what documents I need to carry? original 485 reciept? my original receipt is with lawer, he send me photocopy.

    Its a good idea to have an original 485 receipt, but in my case, they did not ask for it and didnt see it. Not even photocopy.

    Nonetheless ask your lawyer for 485 receipt and they should give you that. There is no reason for them to keep the original with themselves, they can keep the copy and give you original.



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  • 485Mbe4001
    09-23 12:37 PM
    Everyone knows that King will keep adding ammendments, the only way this bill can pass todays hurdle is if they have some kind of a back room deal where King gets to show he is against the bill but allows a vote towards the end. The fact that he was able to bring up so many ammendments shows that the prior negotiations failed or did not occur. Most of the grunt/real work (deal making) is off the camera, on camera they just pander to their crowds.

    King will, as usual, will come up with alot of amendments again. By the way, they have to finish with the horse bill and then they will come to our bill and then they have to finish the nurse bill. All the bills along with the Mr.Kings amendements have to be done in 2hrs because it starts at 3PM and ends at 5PM.





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  • frostrated
    08-03 03:22 PM
    USCIS will go according to the ND. They will not follow PD. PD is used only to make the application eligible for adjudication or to apply for AOS. One filed, it is the application ND that takes priority. For example, if there are two EB2 applications, and the PD for the two are Aug 2002 and Aug 2004, and the ND for these two are June 2006 and Jan 2006 respectively, the applicaiton with ND of Jan 2006 gets priority, provided both PD are current.



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  • Marphad
    01-13 02:53 PM
    This train moves backwards too. So you never know.

    Shubh Shubh bol :)





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  • floridasun
    01-01 07:17 PM
    The price of GC is what you assign to it. The value of GC is not what other people tell you it is. If you get depressed, make your life hell - it's because you chose it. My PD is 2010 in EB2 and I came here in 2004. I know what I'm getting into and it's my decision so I won't fret about it or get depressed. GC is just a document, it should not define you or your life.

    Enjoy time with your Family, wife, kids - it's priceless.....a new sports car will also help. Life is a great gift and will have ups and downs....don't let GC define who you are. I rejected filing in EB3 3 years back with a big 4 consulting firm and changed jobs. I also feel this "promotion" thing but I chose to be in that position. My friends in India are all PM's and Sr PM's.....they got what they chose.

    Life is decided by the choices we make, not GC. GC is just a document. Enjoy and celebrate life.

    My dear Mr. smuggymba -
    for your kind information, sorry for starting rats comparison here but I came to US about half a dozen years before you. my priority date is 2006 and EB3. also I recognize that there are ppl out there who came earlier than me too. Its very easy to preach 'Life is decided by choices we make', 'your luck/fate, success is decided by your own effort, talent', 'if you have it, ppl will notice it and you will succeed' etc. when you spend the most energetic, productive part of your life in a country, you would expect that country reward you with atleast opportunities to prove your mettle. not to say its immensely painful when ppl who came years and years after you get GC and grow leaps and bounds right in front of your eyes.
    P.S. I am not questioning your qualifications or anything.



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  • krishmunn
    04-20 10:08 PM
    Looks like you are using online degree to support your case as well, that is why you are so pissed off. No matter how loud you shout or how many people you threaten about lawsuits and all that stuff, no one can deny the fact that an online degree does not have much of recognition.

    Say in clear and simple words -- are online degrees from University of North Dakota, University of Massachusetts, North Eastern University etc. legit ? Yes or No

    Your beating around the bush and twisting words just show you have no argument. Didn't your MBA teach you that there is something called logical argument? Or was your degree from the like of TVU ?

    It is only YOU who think that online degree does not have recognition . If you are yet to understand the power of Online educatoin you are probably living in stone age.


    BTW, I do not have a online degree (though I plan to go for an online MBA) but I am pissed off when I see some so called educated people are so eager to get a GC that they will probably kill others to make their way.





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  • chanduv23
    03-09 11:30 AM
    Visa Bulletin For April 2011 (http://travel.state.gov/visa/bulletin/bulletin_5368.html)

    EMPLOYMENT-BASED PREFERENCES

    First: Priority Workers: 28.6% of the worldwide employment-based preference level, plus any numbers not required for fourth and fifth preferences.

    Second: Members of the Professions Holding Advanced Degrees or Persons of Exceptional Ability: 28.6% of the worldwide employment-based preference level, plus any numbers not required by first preference.

    Third: Skilled Workers, Professionals, and Other Workers: 28.6% of the worldwide level, plus any numbers not required by first and second preferences, not more than 10,000 of which to "Other Workers".

    Fourth: Certain Special Immigrants: 7.1% of the worldwide level.

    Fifth: Employment Creation: 7.1% of the worldwide level, not less than 3,000 of which reserved for investors in a targeted rural or high-unemployment area, and 3,000 set aside for investors in regional centers by Sec. 610 of P.L. 102-395.

    4. INA Section 203(e) provides that family-sponsored and employment-based preference visas be issued to eligible immigrants in the order in which a petition in behalf of each has been filed. Section 203(d) provides that spouses and children of preference immigrants are entitled to the same status, and the same order of consideration, if accompanying or following to join the principal. The visa prorating provisions of Section 202(e) apply to allocations for a foreign state or dependent area when visa demand exceeds the per-country limit. These provisions apply at present to the following oversubscribed chargeability areas: CHINA-mainland born, INDIA, MEXICO, and PHILIPPINES.

    5. On the chart below, the listing of a date for any class indicates that the class is oversubscribed (see paragraph 1); "C" means current, i.e., numbers are available for all qualified applicants; and "U" means unavailable, i.e., no numbers are available. (NOTE: Numbers are available only for applicants whose priority date is earlier than the cut-off date listed below.)
    Family- Sponsored All Chargeability Areas Except Those Listed CHINA-mainland born INDIA MEXICO PHILIPPINES
    F1 01MAY04 01MAY04 01MAY04 15FEB93 01APR95
    F2A 01APR07 01APR07 01APR07 01JUL06 01APR07
    F2B 15APR03 15APR03 15APR03 15JUL92 01DEC99
    F3 15MAR01 15MAR01 15MAR01 08NOV92 01JAN92
    F4 01FEB00 01JAN00 01FEB00 01FEB96 08MAR88

    *NOTE: For April, F2A numbers EXEMPT from per-country limit are available to applicants from all countries with priority dates earlier than 01JUL06. F2A numbers SUBJECT to per-country limit are available to applicants chargeable to all countries EXCEPT MEXICO with priority dates beginning 01JUL06 and earlier than 01APR07. (All F2A numbers provided for MEXICO are exempt from the per-country limit; there are no F2A numbers for MEXICO subject to per-country limit.)

    Employment- Based

    All Chargeability Areas Except Those Listed
    CHINA- mainland born INDIA MEXICO PHILIPPINES
    1st C C C C C
    2nd C 22JUL06 08MAY06 C C
    3rd 22JUL05 01MAR04 08APR02 08MAY04 22JUL05
    Other Workers 22JUL03 22APR03 08APR02 22JUL03 22JUL03
    4th C C C C C
    Certain Religious Workers C C C C C
    5th C C C C C
    Targeted Employment Areas/ Regional Centers C C C C C
    5th Pilot Programs C C C C C

    The Department of State has available a recorded message with visa availability information which can be heard at: (area code 202) 663-1541. This recording will be updated in the middle of each month with information on cut-off dates for the following month.

    Employment Third Preference Other Workers Category: Section 203(e) of the NACARA, as amended by Section 1(e) of Pub. L. 105-139, provides that once the Employment Third Preference Other Worker (EW) cut-off date has reached the priority date of the latest EW petition approved prior to November 19, 1997, the 10,000 EW numbers available for a fiscal year are to be reduced by up to 5,000 annually beginning in the following fiscal year. This reduction is to be made for as long as necessary to offset adjustments under the NACARA program. Since the EW cut-off date reached November 19, 1997 during Fiscal Year 2001, the reduction in the EW annual limit to 5,000 began in Fiscal Year 2002.

    B. DIVERSITY IMMIGRANT (DV) CATEGORY

    Section 203(c) of the Immigration and Nationality Act provides a maximum of up to 55,000 immigrant visas each fiscal year to permit immigration opportunities for persons from countries other than the principal sources of current immigration to the United States. The Nicaraguan and Central American Relief Act (NACARA) passed by Congress in November 1997 stipulates that beginning with DV-99, and for as long as necessary, up to 5,000 of the 55,000 annually-allocated diversity visas will be made available for use under the NACARA program. This reduction has resulted in the DV-2011 annual limit being reduced to 50,000. DV visas are divided among six geographic regions. No one country can receive more than seven percent of the available diversity visas in any one year.

    For April, immigrant numbers in the DV category are available to qualified DV-2011 applicants chargeable to all regions/eligible countries as follows. When an allocation cut-off number is shown, visas are available only for applicants with DV regional lottery rank numbers BELOW the specified allocation cut-off number:
    Region All DV Chargeability Areas Except Those Listed Separately
    AFRICA 35,450 Except: Egypt 27,600
    Ethiopia 22,150
    Nigeria 14,100
    ASIA 19,250 Except:Bangladesh 18,350
    EUROPE 23,200
    NORTH AMERICA (BAHAMAS) 8
    OCEANIA 1,000
    SOUTH AMERICA, and the CARIBBEAN 1,075


    Entitlement to immigrant status in the DV category lasts only through the end of the fiscal (visa) year for which the applicant is selected in the lottery. The year of entitlement for all applicants registered for the DV-2011 program ends as of September 30, 2011. DV visas may not be issued to DV-2011 applicants after that date. Similarly, spouses and children accompanying or following to join DV-2011 principals are only entitled to derivative DV status until September 30, 2011. DV visa availability through the very end of FY-2011 cannot be taken for granted. Numbers could be exhausted prior to September 30.

    C. ADVANCE NOTIFICATION OF THE DIVERSITY (DV) IMMIGRANT CATEGORY RANK
    CUT-OFFS WHICH WILL APPLY IN MAY

    For May, immigrant numbers in the DV category are available to qualified DV-2011 applicants chargeable to all regions/eligible countries as follows. When an allocation cut-off number is shown, visas are available only for applicants with DV regional lottery rank numbers BELOW the specified allocation cut-off number:
    Region All DV Chargeability Areas Except Those Listed Separately
    AFRICA 42,000

    Except: Egypt 31,200
    Ethiopia 26,200
    Nigeria 15,450
    ASIA 23,500
    EUROPE 27,800
    NORTH AMERICA (BAHAMAS) 12
    OCEANIA 1,175
    SOUTH AMERICA, and the CARIBBEAN 1,150

    D. RETROGRESSION OF FAMILY PREFERENCE CUT-OFF DATES

    Continued heavy applicant demand for numbers in the Family First (F1) preference category has required the retrogression of the Worldwide, China-mainland born, and India cut-off date for the month of April.

    Further retrogressions cannot be ruled out should demand continue at the current levels for some categories and countries.

    Not much good news for EB2 and EB3 India. I hope folks realize and do the lobby day seriously.



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  • admin
    05-12 02:16 PM
    ufo2002,

    None of the bills for CIR state that the illegals will be able to file for GC right away. They will have to wait for atleast 8 years from the date the bill is passed, as per the latest Hagel Martinez version.





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  • mrajatish
    03-28 09:22 AM
    I understand it is a mess and I never suggested it should not be solved. However, I know a lot of my friends in PBEC who will apply PERM (pri dates 2003/04) if the pri dates for India became current.

    And I am myself stuck in Dallas BEC which is not even taking a look at State cases. And yes, if EB2 became current, I will file another labor in a jiffy. So, yes, it is a mess there but we got to look for avenues out of it.

    I am , in no way, suggesting that we should not support PBEC overhaul if thats what it takes to get labor approved. But right now, Comprehensive Immigration bill is about GC and H1 numbers for us, it will not deal with labor backlog, USCIS backlog etc. So, what do we do now - should we raise an issue that politicians will hear, but not act on, or do we raise a red-hot issue of what hard country limits will do and there is a fair chance it might be acted upon?

    I hope you do not misunderstand this.





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  • alkg
    08-03 01:54 PM
    I agree with you. Next week we will see the bulletin and then some people will be elated if their predictions come right and some will be disapointed. Again in 20 days we will start a new thread for Oct bulletin and FY 2010. I guess it is just that we are keeping alive our hopes.

    Very true!





    laborchic
    10-15 10:33 AM
    I know I am not going to get my GC righ away by attending rallies/meetings and activity's. But there should be an efforts from every one to raise their hand and contribute for the cause. Appreciate the core members and state chapter leaders for your vision and work.

    At the same note,I regret for not being at DC after meeting some of the members yesterday.

    Before, I have little/no idea of how to approach lawmakers (my idea of meeting lawmakers was like meeting politicians in INDIA, Zindhabad...Zindhabad type), glad i do now :rolleyes:!

    Main concern/talk was about not many people turning up with 3000 IV members in the tristate, I strongly believe we can do much better in the number department for the next meeting. Again, not just numbers but with some motivation to take part in the events to come.

    I did not like the leaders thanking the members just because they turned up! It should always the other way around, members should thank the leaders for organizing such events. After all it is for ones own benefit, no one is doing a fa�vour to any one!

    Come on folks, join ur state chapters.


    Good to hear from you sweet23guyin... seems you guys had a ball after I left.. ;-)





    learning01
    03-27 10:33 AM
    can we get live or recorded audio or video? C-spna should be doing it? Can anyone comment ? Thanks. We will provide a link (and of course ask to join IV and ask them to make contributions).
    Thanks to the efforts of everyone at IV and QGA, we have the golden opportunity for a member of IV to actually testify before Congress. No kidding!



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