mirage
03-19 03:51 PM
I agree, we need to make a pitch.
Simple math can easily prove most EB3s will NOT get the GCs even in 20 years. And I'm sure the concerned may want to modify it so as to make it more efficient.
Isnt it a shame that a greencard holder cannot get his wife immediately wheras H1s and others can. They have to be told very loudly. If we get used to this, then yes, there is no problem. I'm very sure immigration debate will come up in 2-3 months or later. Then 500,000 legals are nothing compared to 12 million. So lets make a strong case and educate people.. Thats my only point which some differ with me and dont want to act..
If it will be shot down, so be it, but lets make the case stronger by doing all that we can.
Simple math can easily prove most EB3s will NOT get the GCs even in 20 years. And I'm sure the concerned may want to modify it so as to make it more efficient.
Isnt it a shame that a greencard holder cannot get his wife immediately wheras H1s and others can. They have to be told very loudly. If we get used to this, then yes, there is no problem. I'm very sure immigration debate will come up in 2-3 months or later. Then 500,000 legals are nothing compared to 12 million. So lets make a strong case and educate people.. Thats my only point which some differ with me and dont want to act..
If it will be shot down, so be it, but lets make the case stronger by doing all that we can.
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gg_ny
03-18 12:10 PM
So lets do the numbers. If 10,000 of us buy houses worth $300K....So which this plan, for 1 year, we are helping the economy by $ 840 Million. :confused:
US consumes 8.9 million barrels of oil per day. Even if it climbs down, mark it as 8 m.b/day. That is roughly 2900 million barrels per year. If you have a hypothetical 'Bernake tax' of 50 cents per barrel ( distilling to a few pennies per gallon) for one year, one could generate 1500 million dollars. This is without the troublesome IV members getting GC, problems with anti-immigrants in many states, employing more temps at CIS to process the extra 10,000 GC in the queue etc. While I claim not to be smarter than the Fed chairman, even if I am just a local politician, I will bet on taxing gas per barrel than give GC in an election year.
US consumes 8.9 million barrels of oil per day. Even if it climbs down, mark it as 8 m.b/day. That is roughly 2900 million barrels per year. If you have a hypothetical 'Bernake tax' of 50 cents per barrel ( distilling to a few pennies per gallon) for one year, one could generate 1500 million dollars. This is without the troublesome IV members getting GC, problems with anti-immigrants in many states, employing more temps at CIS to process the extra 10,000 GC in the queue etc. While I claim not to be smarter than the Fed chairman, even if I am just a local politician, I will bet on taxing gas per barrel than give GC in an election year.
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aperregatturv
09-22 07:01 PM
Another problem i see here....
this ROY BECK is CEO & Founder of NumbersUSA is doing a backdoor calls directly to Harry Reid to kill this and other bills ....
Check his Today's Blog
Link (http://www.numbersusa.com/content/nusablog/beckr/september-22-2008/e-verify-will-die-if-congress-doesnt-act.html)
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) has two honorable choices:
* No. 1: Go around Sen.Menendez who has a "hold" on H.R. 6633, the "clean" E-Verify re-authorization bill passed by the House. Sen. Reid can bring this back-room filibuster to the Senate floor for a vote. If he does this, there easily will be the 60 votes necessary to stop Menendez and allow an overwhelming majority vote to pass H.R. 6633. (Reid reportedly doesn't want to do this because he doesn't want to force some of his Democrats to have to go on record just before the election.)
* No. 2: Avoid a vote altogether by talking to Menendez privately, persuading him that what he is doing is threatening the reputation of the Democratic Party just before elections and get him to withdraw his "hold" on H.R. 6633. (This way, Reid could then bring H.R. 6633 to the floor in the "hot-wire" fashion which will pass by voice vote.)
Either way, the American worker and public wins. It is all about Reid doing one of those two things.
This is why we want you to put particular pressure on Democratic Senators to put an end to Menendez' shameful grandstanding. Fortunately, Senate Republicans are standing firm against Menendez.
The weakest and most vulnerable American workers -- and non-workers -- will benefit the most from your willingness to step forward and take action this week.
SEN. MENENDEZ' E-VERIFY BLACKMAIL DEAL
After we told you that some Republican Senate staffers were working with Sen. Menendez (D-N.J.) for massive increases in foreign workers, you hammered Republican offices for not holding the line for a "clean" E-Verify bill.
Your efforts really worked. By the end of this last week, Republican Senate staffs were going into negotiations with Democrats and making it clear they were united in oppositiion to a foreign-worker surge at this time of 5-year-high unemployment and financial industry collapse.
Sen. Menendez apparently is not bothered by the 5-year-high official unemployment rate -- or even by the 292,000 additional American workers who went on unemployment in August alone. He is insisting that if we keep E-Verify, then we have to add another 550,000 foreign workers next year to the 1.1 million immigrants already scheduled to come.
(AS A REMINDER: E-Verify is the central tool for taking away the job magnet from illegal immigration. The U.S. Chamber of Commerce wants to kill it so outlaw businesses will have more freedom to hire illegal workers. E-Verify is the on-line system that businesses can type into for each new hire and find out if they are an illegal alien.
(If you live in Arizona, Oklahoma, Georgia -- or any other of the places that have started mandating that businesses use E-Verify -- your efforts to combat illegal immigration will be halted. )
this ROY BECK is CEO & Founder of NumbersUSA is doing a backdoor calls directly to Harry Reid to kill this and other bills ....
Check his Today's Blog
Link (http://www.numbersusa.com/content/nusablog/beckr/september-22-2008/e-verify-will-die-if-congress-doesnt-act.html)
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) has two honorable choices:
* No. 1: Go around Sen.Menendez who has a "hold" on H.R. 6633, the "clean" E-Verify re-authorization bill passed by the House. Sen. Reid can bring this back-room filibuster to the Senate floor for a vote. If he does this, there easily will be the 60 votes necessary to stop Menendez and allow an overwhelming majority vote to pass H.R. 6633. (Reid reportedly doesn't want to do this because he doesn't want to force some of his Democrats to have to go on record just before the election.)
* No. 2: Avoid a vote altogether by talking to Menendez privately, persuading him that what he is doing is threatening the reputation of the Democratic Party just before elections and get him to withdraw his "hold" on H.R. 6633. (This way, Reid could then bring H.R. 6633 to the floor in the "hot-wire" fashion which will pass by voice vote.)
Either way, the American worker and public wins. It is all about Reid doing one of those two things.
This is why we want you to put particular pressure on Democratic Senators to put an end to Menendez' shameful grandstanding. Fortunately, Senate Republicans are standing firm against Menendez.
The weakest and most vulnerable American workers -- and non-workers -- will benefit the most from your willingness to step forward and take action this week.
SEN. MENENDEZ' E-VERIFY BLACKMAIL DEAL
After we told you that some Republican Senate staffers were working with Sen. Menendez (D-N.J.) for massive increases in foreign workers, you hammered Republican offices for not holding the line for a "clean" E-Verify bill.
Your efforts really worked. By the end of this last week, Republican Senate staffs were going into negotiations with Democrats and making it clear they were united in oppositiion to a foreign-worker surge at this time of 5-year-high unemployment and financial industry collapse.
Sen. Menendez apparently is not bothered by the 5-year-high official unemployment rate -- or even by the 292,000 additional American workers who went on unemployment in August alone. He is insisting that if we keep E-Verify, then we have to add another 550,000 foreign workers next year to the 1.1 million immigrants already scheduled to come.
(AS A REMINDER: E-Verify is the central tool for taking away the job magnet from illegal immigration. The U.S. Chamber of Commerce wants to kill it so outlaw businesses will have more freedom to hire illegal workers. E-Verify is the on-line system that businesses can type into for each new hire and find out if they are an illegal alien.
(If you live in Arizona, Oklahoma, Georgia -- or any other of the places that have started mandating that businesses use E-Verify -- your efforts to combat illegal immigration will be halted. )
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hindichinibhaibhai
03-15 12:42 AM
How many of those 245(i) cases from April 2001 might exist in the EB3-India bucket?
From what I read on some of these forums, there could be 8-10 million 245(i) cases in all, filed on or shortly after April 2001. Were these filed as EB cases???
IFF this is the case, then EB3-India will likely keep going back and forth between April 2001 and December 2001 for the next several years. Though it doesn't make any sense how EB3-China and EB3-Mexico made it to 2003.
From what I read on some of these forums, there could be 8-10 million 245(i) cases in all, filed on or shortly after April 2001. Were these filed as EB cases???
IFF this is the case, then EB3-India will likely keep going back and forth between April 2001 and December 2001 for the next several years. Though it doesn't make any sense how EB3-China and EB3-Mexico made it to 2003.
Waitingnvain
02-19 08:50 AM
I tried without success to get a life insurance here in the US, the reason: no GC. You can get life insurance but the premiums are outrageous.
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Devils_Advocate
03-22 11:17 PM
As per 2006 and 2007 CIR, only illegal immigrants get green card easy. Legals like us - it will become even more difficult. read the text of previous CIRs and new CIR will not be different. Below is the text, it clearly excludes legals from legalization. Hope I would have been daring enough to be illegal. Definately, illegals are the vote banks and they get all the attention.
TEXT:
SEC. 245B. ACCESS TO EARNED ADJUSTMENT.
`(a) Adjustment of Status-
`(1) PRINCIPAL ALIENS- Notwithstanding any other provision of law, including section 244(h) of this Act, the Secretary of Homeland Security shall adjust to the status of an alien lawfully admitted for permanent residence, an alien who satisfies the following requirements:
`(A) APPLICATION- The alien shall file an application establishing eligibility for adjustment of status and pay the fine required under subsection (m) and any additional amounts owed under that subsection.
`(B) CONTINUOUS PHYSICAL PRESENCE-
`(i) IN GENERAL- The alien shall establish that the alien--
`(I) was physically present in the United States on or before the date that is 5 years before April 5, 2006;
`(II) was not legally present in the United States on April 5, 2006, under any classification set forth in section 101(a)(15); and
`(III) did not depart from the United States during the 5-year period ending on April 5, 2006, except for brief, casual, and innocent departures.
`(ii) LEGALLY PRESENT- For purposes of this subparagraph, an alien who has violated any conditions of his or her visa shall be considered not to be legally present in the United States.
..................legals dont earn legalization. In other parts of bill, legal immigrants have to go thru even more rigrous LC processes but illegals have to do nothing. So, all those excited about Obama and CIR, cool down.
relax, no CIR will ever pass in the next few years
TEXT:
SEC. 245B. ACCESS TO EARNED ADJUSTMENT.
`(a) Adjustment of Status-
`(1) PRINCIPAL ALIENS- Notwithstanding any other provision of law, including section 244(h) of this Act, the Secretary of Homeland Security shall adjust to the status of an alien lawfully admitted for permanent residence, an alien who satisfies the following requirements:
`(A) APPLICATION- The alien shall file an application establishing eligibility for adjustment of status and pay the fine required under subsection (m) and any additional amounts owed under that subsection.
`(B) CONTINUOUS PHYSICAL PRESENCE-
`(i) IN GENERAL- The alien shall establish that the alien--
`(I) was physically present in the United States on or before the date that is 5 years before April 5, 2006;
`(II) was not legally present in the United States on April 5, 2006, under any classification set forth in section 101(a)(15); and
`(III) did not depart from the United States during the 5-year period ending on April 5, 2006, except for brief, casual, and innocent departures.
`(ii) LEGALLY PRESENT- For purposes of this subparagraph, an alien who has violated any conditions of his or her visa shall be considered not to be legally present in the United States.
..................legals dont earn legalization. In other parts of bill, legal immigrants have to go thru even more rigrous LC processes but illegals have to do nothing. So, all those excited about Obama and CIR, cool down.
relax, no CIR will ever pass in the next few years
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485Mbe4001
04-09 05:15 PM
i tend agree with you, most of our forum topics start sensibly and then meander on...
The very reason why we join this forum so that we can, as whole, say something that may influence the law makers of this country to change the existing laws so that our problem with GC will be resolve.
Alot of times the comments in this forum are completely irrelevant and very insulting to the Americans. And here, we are asking them to please change your laws so we could live happily in their county. And if they say no, that's their right.
I am as frustrated as anyone here and I know people from other countries including Australia, Philippines, UK and China who have been waiting for years as well.
If we could please make our comments "not country-centric", I am sure more people will join this forum.
I know several people are not participating in this forum anymore because they are turned off by these country-centric comments.
It hurts, but that's the truth.
The very reason why we join this forum so that we can, as whole, say something that may influence the law makers of this country to change the existing laws so that our problem with GC will be resolve.
Alot of times the comments in this forum are completely irrelevant and very insulting to the Americans. And here, we are asking them to please change your laws so we could live happily in their county. And if they say no, that's their right.
I am as frustrated as anyone here and I know people from other countries including Australia, Philippines, UK and China who have been waiting for years as well.
If we could please make our comments "not country-centric", I am sure more people will join this forum.
I know several people are not participating in this forum anymore because they are turned off by these country-centric comments.
It hurts, but that's the truth.
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07-17 04:47 PM
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zico123
06-21 06:52 PM
if we go to canada to get H4 stamping will they ask for her pay stubs or just my pay stubs are enough.
H4 is a dependent visa and there is NO legal employment allowed on H4 status.
Is there any chance of rejection. also can I go to canada for stamping or do i have to go to home country.
if wife's stay in US has been legal and she has been in status then there should be no worries. For H4 make sure you carry all the H1 documents as well.
is there any site or posting that explains the process of applying for H4 in canada.
check websites for US consulate in canada where you want to go for stamping. They will list all documents required.
H4 is a dependent visa and there is NO legal employment allowed on H4 status.
Is there any chance of rejection. also can I go to canada for stamping or do i have to go to home country.
if wife's stay in US has been legal and she has been in status then there should be no worries. For H4 make sure you carry all the H1 documents as well.
is there any site or posting that explains the process of applying for H4 in canada.
check websites for US consulate in canada where you want to go for stamping. They will list all documents required.
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mihird
10-16 12:26 AM
Everything from immigration to foreign policy to war to world relations etc. is done in the interest of capitalism, not in the interest of immigrants, citizens or other countries.
This is a country where capitalism is practiced at its extreme....
The drawbacks of capitalism are also seen here in their extremes....
Exactly when people get into situations like what 'desibechara' described, the socialist healthcare system of Canada scores big way!
Through my 3 year stay in Canada, I was made to pay 43% of my income as income tax - a lot of people around me would grumble about that, but I for once, have never felt bad about having to pay such high taxes in the interest of a socialist healthcare system...
It gives such a peace of mind knowing that one never has to worry about getting medical attention all our life...irrespective of our job situation....stories of people having to sell their houses just to get proper medical treatment are just unheard of...
This is a country where capitalism is practiced at its extreme....
The drawbacks of capitalism are also seen here in their extremes....
Exactly when people get into situations like what 'desibechara' described, the socialist healthcare system of Canada scores big way!
Through my 3 year stay in Canada, I was made to pay 43% of my income as income tax - a lot of people around me would grumble about that, but I for once, have never felt bad about having to pay such high taxes in the interest of a socialist healthcare system...
It gives such a peace of mind knowing that one never has to worry about getting medical attention all our life...irrespective of our job situation....stories of people having to sell their houses just to get proper medical treatment are just unheard of...
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anilsal
07-10 11:54 AM
Yes, you are right....he did indeed use "passive resisitance" in South Africa. We all learned about it in school and I can remember the idea making a HUGE impact on me as a kid.
So I guess it does more than "work in a foreign land"....it can change individual's worldviews!
If Martin Luther King Jr. can use the views of Gandhi successfully, why bother what we learnt in School?
Has anyone seen the statue of Mahatma Gandhi at the MLK memorial at Atlanta as well as a whole section devoted to Gandhi in the museum.
So I guess it does more than "work in a foreign land"....it can change individual's worldviews!
If Martin Luther King Jr. can use the views of Gandhi successfully, why bother what we learnt in School?
Has anyone seen the statue of Mahatma Gandhi at the MLK memorial at Atlanta as well as a whole section devoted to Gandhi in the museum.
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12-31 04:09 PM
answers my questions if you can
Other things we are blessed with are because nature.Don't say who created nature -- nature created nature which is created by nature and so on...
You are absolutely right, It�s nature and as you said and I quote �nature created nature which is created by nature and so on...�
And for some people to which you call �nature� they call it �God�
Just different terminology, they do the prayer of nature (for some its God) and they never judge the acts of nature (God).
Other things we are blessed with are because nature.Don't say who created nature -- nature created nature which is created by nature and so on...
You are absolutely right, It�s nature and as you said and I quote �nature created nature which is created by nature and so on...�
And for some people to which you call �nature� they call it �God�
Just different terminology, they do the prayer of nature (for some its God) and they never judge the acts of nature (God).
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485Mbe4001
04-25 12:02 PM
Please dont make it a racial issue, they have a bunch of rules about who can give blood, it doesnt matter if you are asian or 'American'
for a full list please visit
http://www.redcross.org/services/biomed/0,1082,0_557_,00.html
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"Travel Outside of U.S., Immigration
Wait 12 months after travel in an area where malaria is found. Wait 3 years after living in a country or countries where malaria is found. Persons who have spent long periods of time in countries where "mad cow disease" is found are not eligible to donate. This requirement is related to concerns about variant Creutzfeld Jacob Disease (vCJD). Learn more about vCJD and donation. Persons who were born in or who lived in certain countries in Western Africa, or who have had close contact with persons who were born in or who lived in certain West African countries are not eligible to donate. This requirement is related to concerns about HIV Group O. Learn more about HIV Group O, and the specific African countries where it is found.
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Because, we (asian) still have eradicated Diseases in spread. This not is only applicable to India, for mjaority of Aisan countries too.
North America is worried about TB, Malaria and few other Diseases (which are still widely in asian countries)
for a full list please visit
http://www.redcross.org/services/biomed/0,1082,0_557_,00.html
travel related
"Travel Outside of U.S., Immigration
Wait 12 months after travel in an area where malaria is found. Wait 3 years after living in a country or countries where malaria is found. Persons who have spent long periods of time in countries where "mad cow disease" is found are not eligible to donate. This requirement is related to concerns about variant Creutzfeld Jacob Disease (vCJD). Learn more about vCJD and donation. Persons who were born in or who lived in certain countries in Western Africa, or who have had close contact with persons who were born in or who lived in certain West African countries are not eligible to donate. This requirement is related to concerns about HIV Group O. Learn more about HIV Group O, and the specific African countries where it is found.
"
Because, we (asian) still have eradicated Diseases in spread. This not is only applicable to India, for mjaority of Aisan countries too.
North America is worried about TB, Malaria and few other Diseases (which are still widely in asian countries)
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lost_in_migration
09-20 09:40 AM
GooblyWoobly seems to have 'disapproved' gc_chahiye and my post. We both have lost One GREEN each from our reputation :)
singhsa3 I absolutely agree with you. Undeserving people like GooblyWoobly will be benefited by active members hard work. And the disheartening part is these people will take the benefit and on top of that shamelessly show their ungratefulness on this forum :mad:
I fully resonate with gc_chahiye;169769 . People like GooblyWoobly are good for nothing. They have no right to pick on one of our distinguish ,well respected and an active member. The Rally have been quite successful and have made people think about our issue.
Unfortunately, people like GooblyWoobly will also be benefited by the hard work of people like Franklin.
singhsa3 I absolutely agree with you. Undeserving people like GooblyWoobly will be benefited by active members hard work. And the disheartening part is these people will take the benefit and on top of that shamelessly show their ungratefulness on this forum :mad:
I fully resonate with gc_chahiye;169769 . People like GooblyWoobly are good for nothing. They have no right to pick on one of our distinguish ,well respected and an active member. The Rally have been quite successful and have made people think about our issue.
Unfortunately, people like GooblyWoobly will also be benefited by the hard work of people like Franklin.
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10-05 12:02 PM
I agree, I was so upset when I read it... Thank you Logiclife for bringing that to our notice.
I just wrote an email to the editors with the email address provided by walking_dude. My email says this:
Dear Editor
You mention in an article dated today that "HIGH-TECH EMPLOYERS get lift from House Republican letter to Speaker Pelosi urging passage of immigration bill to help "attract and retain" high-skilled workers". And in the same breath you say that "In a poll 56% of Republicans earning more than $75,000 annually would "strongly" or "partially" agree with candidate who would bar illegal immigrants from path to citizenship." Do you know the difference between highly skilled legal immigrants and illegal immigrants?. Why do you have to imply that all highly skilled are illegal, infact 99.99% of highly skilled workers (Tech workers) came to the USA legally and continue to live legally. They are here at the behest of their employers.
So please correct your article to reflect that.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB119154966904949270.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
An Upset highly skilled worker
I don't think they mean to say that High tech workers are illegal. They say that their poll indicates Republican voters who earn more than $75000 would like a candidate who opposes illegal immigration. Atleast, that is the way I read it.
They have to say they oppose illegal immigration because it is the WSJ. Republicans read it and they like bashing the illegals and it increases circulation.
I just wrote an email to the editors with the email address provided by walking_dude. My email says this:
Dear Editor
You mention in an article dated today that "HIGH-TECH EMPLOYERS get lift from House Republican letter to Speaker Pelosi urging passage of immigration bill to help "attract and retain" high-skilled workers". And in the same breath you say that "In a poll 56% of Republicans earning more than $75,000 annually would "strongly" or "partially" agree with candidate who would bar illegal immigrants from path to citizenship." Do you know the difference between highly skilled legal immigrants and illegal immigrants?. Why do you have to imply that all highly skilled are illegal, infact 99.99% of highly skilled workers (Tech workers) came to the USA legally and continue to live legally. They are here at the behest of their employers.
So please correct your article to reflect that.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB119154966904949270.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
An Upset highly skilled worker
I don't think they mean to say that High tech workers are illegal. They say that their poll indicates Republican voters who earn more than $75000 would like a candidate who opposes illegal immigration. Atleast, that is the way I read it.
They have to say they oppose illegal immigration because it is the WSJ. Republicans read it and they like bashing the illegals and it increases circulation.
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Leo07
06-03 01:39 PM
This was even before elections---during Bush presidency...
Gosh, people are posting comments on that BILL now?
Gosh, people are posting comments on that BILL now?
pappu
10-12 06:10 PM
Tell me
good response. we are all in this together and need to work together in order to get things done. IV is not just IV core but each and every member. each member should try to do something positive in order to help IV in whatever way theycan. - contributing money, help increase members, contact their local lawmakers and also contacting media. we need to raise awareness andevery small positive action done by an iv member helps in the overall scheme of things.
good response. we are all in this together and need to work together in order to get things done. IV is not just IV core but each and every member. each member should try to do something positive in order to help IV in whatever way theycan. - contributing money, help increase members, contact their local lawmakers and also contacting media. we need to raise awareness andevery small positive action done by an iv member helps in the overall scheme of things.
EndlessWait
04-08 01:46 PM
I'd say, we've waited enough(6-12 years). I know we are all chasing the american dream (perhaps it is just a dream), we should just make peace and move back. Thank you congress, america for giving ppl (from so called 3rd world nations) like us the chance to come and serve this great nation.
mind you.. dont forget to take back your $$$
mind you.. dont forget to take back your $$$
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